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Title: I think my TG-IV shit the bed tonight....
Post by: TNRabbit on October 10, 2012, 02:50:30 AM
I hooked up a new set of speaker cables to my system tonight & started listening, but every time I turned it beyond -50 dB on the TG-IV processor, it would start cutting out.  At first I thought maybe I had wires touching somewhere & it was causing a short, but I check all thoroughly & found nothing.  I rebooted everything & now get NOTHING.  Turning off the crossover or EQs give a "pop", so the amp appears to be working, therefore it must be the TG.  f**k.
Title: Re: I think my TG-IV shit the bed tonight....
Post by: Kingman on October 10, 2012, 05:49:07 AM
 :'(
Title: Re: I think my TG-IV shit the bed tonight....
Post by: Reverend on October 10, 2012, 09:21:33 AM
Weird it would happen directly after a cable switch.  Did you swap the old cables back in and test it?  Did you try running a variable output source directly into your amp?
Title: Re: I think my TG-IV shit the bed tonight....
Post by: TNRabbit on October 10, 2012, 11:11:57 AM
Weird it would happen directly after a cable switch.  Did you swap the old cables back in and test it?  Did you try running a variable output source directly into your amp?

No, and no.  Not an easy thing to do with the active setup & 12 XLR interconnects in addition to a dozen more RCA interconnects....

Plan to swap the cables out later this evening...
Title: Re: I think my TG-IV shit the bed tonight....
Post by: OCCD on October 10, 2012, 07:41:01 PM
Hmmm...
Title: Re: I think my TG-IV shit the bed tonight....
Post by: TNRabbit on October 11, 2012, 12:48:54 PM
Both the amp & preamp power up as normal, & all fuses are intact.

I tried using the Benchmark DAC as a preamp, but still no sound.....which means it has to either be the amp or possibly the crossover.  Odd that it has worked fine until I swapped out the speaker cables....

I took both apart last night to check for anything obvious.  Everything looked normal.  Pics located here:

 http://s251.photobucket.com/albums/gg286/TNRabbit/Audio/Sunfire/?start=all (http://s251.photobucket.com/albums/gg286/TNRabbit/Audio/Sunfire/?start=all)
Title: Re: I think my TG-IV shit the bed tonight....
Post by: BrianT on October 11, 2012, 05:55:52 PM
Gary

All the pics look OK, nothing looks fried.
I presume that you have checked all the fuses on the boards

Have you tried the pre with one of your carverfest tube amps?

Hope you sort it out very soon.

Brian
Title: Re: I think my TG-IV shit the bed tonight....
Post by: TNRabbit on October 11, 2012, 06:44:27 PM
All fuses are good.

I haven't had a CF amp since Feb....

Will try to hook up different combos tonight...otherwise won't get to it until Sunday.
Title: Re: I think my TG-IV shit the bed tonight....
Post by: bmwr75 on October 11, 2012, 07:32:22 PM
TG-IV.........I don't even know what that is.
Title: Re: I think my TG-IV shit the bed tonight....
Post by: TNRabbit on October 11, 2012, 08:10:43 PM
There's a picture of it in my sig line.  Sunfire Theater Grand IV surround processor/preamp.

(http://www.sunfire.com/images/primary_theatergrandIII.gif)
Title: Re: I think my TG-IV shit the bed tonight....
Post by: TNRabbit on October 12, 2012, 02:55:11 AM
OK....I've ruled out the TG-IV & determined that it's DEFINITELY the Sunfire Cinema Seven Signature amp....
Title: Re: I think my TG-IV shit the bed tonight....
Post by: TNRabbit on October 12, 2012, 03:02:46 AM
This sucks.

NO obvious issues with the amp.  No burned fuses, no burned areas on any of the boards, ALL CHANNELS are dead.  It's like something on the input side is down....
Title: Re: I think my TG-IV shit the bed tonight....
Post by: Kingman on October 12, 2012, 08:15:32 AM
Time for a trip to the shop..... :(
Title: Re: I think my TG-IV shit the bed tonight....
Post by: TNRabbit on October 12, 2012, 11:52:44 AM
Time for a trip to the shop..... :(

It will be a trip to the closet for now; got no money to spend on something like this.  I still owe people who loaned me money this summer when I hurt my knee~
Title: Re: I think my TG-IV shit the bed tonight....
Post by: TNRabbit on October 13, 2012, 04:28:05 PM
Just a news update....IT'S ALIVE!!!



I'll provide details later, but for now let's just say I'M AN IDIOT....
Title: Re: I think my TG-IV shit the bed tonight....
Post by: TNRabbit on October 13, 2012, 10:12:08 PM
(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg286/TNRabbit/Audio/Sunfire/th_20121013163525.jpg) (http://s251.photobucket.com/albums/gg286/TNRabbit/Audio/Sunfire/?action=view&current=20121013163525.mp4)
Title: Re: I think my TG-IV shit the bed tonight....
Post by: TNRabbit on October 17, 2012, 03:47:15 PM
Things were so tight back there with the huge spades on my new speaker cables that I had the pos/neg touching.

Like Martin said, you CAN'T break a 400x7~

Sounds fantastic with Doug's Furez 9AWG cables! I would have never thought Sonic Holography could be improved with speaker cables, but they sure do some magic!
Title: Re: I think my TG-IV shit the bed tonight....
Post by: TNRabbit on October 18, 2012, 11:49:23 PM
(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg286/TNRabbit/Audio/th_20121018153703.jpg) (http://s251.photobucket.com/albums/gg286/TNRabbit/Audio/?action=view&current=20121018153703.mp4)

(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg286/TNRabbit/Audio/th_SpyroGyra_Monsoon.jpg) (http://s251.photobucket.com/albums/gg286/TNRabbit/Audio/?action=view&current=SpyroGyra_Monsoon.mp4)